Are Christians Being Persecuted?
Or Just Whining a Lot?
A blog question on ChristianNet.com got some curious responses:
Do you believe that at some time in the near future there will be persecution in America for being a Christian and why?
It is already happening. The slow process of taking God and prayer out of schools and public places and the push to remove his name from money, courts, constitution and the removing of crosses from public places along with christmas nativity scenes from parks are all beginnings of persecution. One model Federal prison has removed Bibles from the facility and if prisoners speak the name Jesus, the spend time in the hole. This will spread to all prisons. We may be unable to buy Bibles someday.
In North Korea they are forced to worship their leader, Kim Jong 'Ill.' Anyone possessing a Bible is shot, I believe that is persecution.In America the future persecution will come from those who are intolerant of those who believe different than themselves. Look for those who write, publish attacks on other religions, en masse. The rhetorical attack today will turn into the real physical attacks, tomorrow.
This second place I worked. A 18 yr old girl came to apply for a job. She told the owner up front that she did'nt wear pants. He told her that it was ok. At the second interview he told her he could'nt hire her unless she wore pants.It was a hostess job. She left. I was proud of this young person for standing up for what she believed. Many just give in to the pressure.
Man could I already write a book on this. The few of us whom God has chosen into a close relationship with Him oh my goodness does the Devil hate us. And unbelievers are so silly they do not know when Satan is using them against God's people. We as true believers are suppose to have compassion for the lost, and I do. +++
Real Christians in America are already being persecuted, and we have been for many years. We are used and abused, have our familes taken away, our lives destoyed, forced to pay extortion, lose jobs, etc. only because we are Christian.
Yes, these are real responses. Yes, some of them don't make sense ("forced to pay extortion"?). And persecution will come "from those who are intolerant of those who believe different than themselves". Huh? Does this one actually believe that his religion is tolerant? Of other religions? Let's take a free history course in Western Civilization shall we?
Persecution: A program or campaign to subjugate or eliminate a specific group of people. That includes:
Romans against Christians (60 CE sporadically until @305CE)
Christians against Jews (325 CE until...)
Christians against pagans (325 CE until...)
Christians against Muslims and Jews (9 Crusades)
Christians against Christians (esp. 30 Years War)
Christians against Meso and Native Americans ("heathens")
Christians against Chinese-Americans ("The Yellow Peril")
Christians against Japanese-Americans (WWII)
Christians against Gays and Lesbians
Christians against Harry Potter
Christians against Muslims (again)
That's quite a track record. And there's all those groups Christians dislike: feminists, atheists, agnostics, Freemasons as well as the 29,999 other denominations who "don't think like them."
Persecution? Some people have forgotten the meaning of the word.
Do you believe that at some time in the near future there will be persecution in America for being a Christian and why?
It is already happening. The slow process of taking God and prayer out of schools and public places and the push to remove his name from money, courts, constitution and the removing of crosses from public places along with christmas nativity scenes from parks are all beginnings of persecution. One model Federal prison has removed Bibles from the facility and if prisoners speak the name Jesus, the spend time in the hole. This will spread to all prisons. We may be unable to buy Bibles someday.
In North Korea they are forced to worship their leader, Kim Jong 'Ill.' Anyone possessing a Bible is shot, I believe that is persecution.In America the future persecution will come from those who are intolerant of those who believe different than themselves. Look for those who write, publish attacks on other religions, en masse. The rhetorical attack today will turn into the real physical attacks, tomorrow. This second place I worked. A 18 yr old girl came to apply for a job. She told the owner up front that she did'nt wear pants. He told her that it was ok. At the second interview he told her he could'nt hire her unless she wore pants.It was a hostess job. She left. I was proud of this young person for standing up for what she believed. Many just give in to the pressure.
Man could I already write a book on this. The few of us whom God has chosen into a close relationship with Him oh my goodness does the Devil hate us. And unbelievers are so silly they do not know when Satan is using them against God's people. We as true believers are suppose to have compassion for the lost, and I do. +++
Real Christians in America are already being persecuted, and we have been for many years. We are used and abused, have our familes taken away, our lives destoyed, forced to pay extortion, lose jobs, etc. only because we are Christian.
Yes, these are real responses. Yes, some of them don't make sense ("forced to pay extortion"?). And persecution will come "from those who are intolerant of those who believe different than themselves". Huh? Does this one actually believe that his religion is tolerant? Of other religions? Let's take a free history course in Western Civilization shall we?
Persecution: A program or campaign to subjugate or eliminate a specific group of people. That includes:
Romans against Christians (60 CE sporadically until @305CE)
Christians against Jews (325 CE until...)
Christians against pagans (325 CE until...)
Christians against Muslims and Jews (9 Crusades)
Christians against Christians (esp. 30 Years War)
Christians against Meso and Native Americans ("heathens")
Christians against Chinese-Americans ("The Yellow Peril")
Christians against Japanese-Americans (WWII)
Christians against Gays and Lesbians
Christians against Harry Potter
Christians against Muslims (again)
That's quite a track record. And there's all those groups Christians dislike: feminists, atheists, agnostics, Freemasons as well as the 29,999 other denominations who "don't think like them."
Persecution? Some people have forgotten the meaning of the word.
An auto de fe or mass burning of witches
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5 comments:
Though I agree with the proposition that the religious right is made up of a bunch of whiners, and that the backlash against their faith is pretty much their own fault, I'm not sure if the way you've gone about this is appropriate.
By chalking up the persecution of Christians against persecutions by Christians, you've both made Christians a large homogeneous group, ie "Christianity" while at the same time belittling the existence of real persecution against Christians around the world. Christians in Pakistan, for example, are subjects to bomb threats and "blasphemy laws." A closer examination of those persecutions actually reveals the idiocy of the bitching of the religious right--they have no idea what being persecuted means.
Like I said, I agree with the proposition wholeheartedly, but racking up being persecuted vs persecution of as if it were "Christians 10:Everybody else 1" makes it sound as if real persecution against Christians wouldn't matter because they "had it coming."
Sorry, but the point I'm trying to make is that American Christians cry as if they are persecuted here in America. You are right in saying that they know nothing of real persecution: they carry their isolationism to the extreme that not only do they not admit Christianity's bloody history, but they ignore real persecution until it suits their political ends
You can't call taking prayer and bible out of schools and gov. run prisons as persecution because those things never had any business being in those places in the first place. All that is going to save us from becoming a 'Christian nation' where anyone who is NOT a Christian, because that is what the fundies want, is to relentlessly pursue and insist on separation of church and state. And if there is a required dress code for a job, and your religion prohibits you from wearing that, then it is on YOU to find another job and it is NOT religious persecution. I won't wear the Hooters uniform so I can't work at Hooters because of my intelligence and feminism, but I don't claim intelligence persecution or feminism persecution, and if I did, I should be laughed into hiding. Religion should be kept in its place and tht is not persecution, it is keeping the world free for people who beleive other things or nothing at all in regards to religion.
What about Hindus? Conservative Christians hate Hinduism. They had the nerve to bring their Inquisition to Goa, where the Portuguese had a colony until they were forced out only fifty years ago.
They burned Hindus at the stake for being Hindus.
Regarding the title of your book, please choose another title.
Hindus will be glad to join all thinking people in the battle against conservative Christian hegemony.
But you have automatically alienated them, unnecessarily.
Not only that, Christians hate the vegetarian Hindus because they won't eat cows, and your title sounds Christian.
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