Friday, October 17, 2008


Originally uploaded by DiscoWeasel
The one that gets me is "Capable of logical reason" because most Christofasicst sheeple are told not to reason because it is sinful to question the Word of God. They can use reasoning in any other endeavor but not when it comes to their religion, not on your life! (or soul). They actually have signs that read; "Don't think...believe" (Creation Museum, of course). And when a good, thinking Christian asks questions his/her minister can't answer, the reply is "take it as a matter of faith." That may be the coward's way out of a situation, but to the clergy, it works every time.

Try this little conundrum in your Bible Study class: The Bible says that the Ark was made out of "gopher wood." Fine. So what does gopher wood look like? Where is it indigenous? Is it soft, hard, porous, what? Answer: gopher wood has never been identified. If the Ark was so large, then there must have been plenty of gopher wood around. Mesopotamia? No. Lebanon? No. Syria? Jordan? Sudan? Ethiopia? Egypt? No. No. No. No. No gopher wood. Period.

Well, we just have to take its existence on faith. Right?


Mormons Send Money Across State Lines for Immoral Purposes

It's Not Proposition 8
It's Proposition Hate!

Mormons really do want to be accepted by the rest of the "Christian" Community. In fact, they're willing to shell out money for that acceptance.

Lots of money.

Actually, it's "hate money." That's where the questionable morality of donating to California's Proposition 8 comes in. It's not a "protect the children" Proposition. It's not a "government legislating morals" Proposition. It's not even a "it will cost the taxpayers money" Proposition. No, though all of these things have been cited in the "we're not hatemongers" ads, it's still a Proposition of Hate.

Several segments of "Letters to the Editor" of the San Francisco Chronicle have well-founded reasons to say "No" to Proposition 8:

Since Mormons have donated in excess of $9 million, accounting for at least 40 percent of Prop. 8's donors, we Californians need to scrupulously guard against a secretive religious sect from Utah controlling and subverting civil rights law in our state.

And this one raises the rather unique angle of religious persecution:

This Prop. 8 is nothing less than religious persecution against those who have different beliefs. And if straight unmarried people think they are safe from these "conservatives"- think again. In Arkansas, there is a push by these religious groups to ban unmarried people from fostering children.

Once gays and lesbians have been persecuted with a change to the state Constitution, there is no telling who these people will set their sights on next. Vote No on Prop. 8 - it is religious persecution, pure and simple.

Mormons have given money and MANPOWER for Proposition 8, according to CBS News:
Mormons have been active participants in the campaign both as volunteers and financial contributors, giving an estimated 43 percent—some $8.4 million—to the Proposition 8 campaign, according to the Web site There are about 770,000 Mormon church members in California, but Mormons from outside the state have been encouraged to give money and time to help pass the measure.
We could also look at the infusion of Mormon money into California as Big Business: while getting in good with Christians who think that Mormonism is a cult, they can promote the temples already in California.

Gotta protect the franchises.

Just a thought.

The Stupidity of Banning People From Doing What They Enjoy

Or...Ban, Baby, Ban!

Freedom was written into the Constitution. There were only a few instances (in its Amendments) where the Constitution actually banned certain procedures, social institutions or substances:

Abolition (Prohibition) of Slavery

Prohibition of the Poll Tax

Prohibition of Alcohol

Prohibition of Cruel and Unusual Punishment

So, in a way, the Constitution - through some of its prohibitions - legislated morality. When it banned personal freedoms, such as drinking alcohol, it met with some very disastrous results:
(From Wikipedia):

The effects of Prohibition were largely unanticipated. Production, importation and distribution of alcoholic beverages—once the province of legitimate business—were taken over by criminal gangs, which fought each other for market control in violent confrontations, including mass murder. Top gangsters became rich and were admired locally, such as Omaha's Tom Dennison, and nationally, such as Chicago's Al Capone. This effectively made murderers into national celebrities. Enforcement was difficult because the gangs became so rich that they were often able to bribe underpaid and understaffed law-enforcement personnel and hire top lawyers.

Evangelists have tried - and failed - to ban things people truly enjoy: Carry Nation and Billy Sunday both crusaded for the prohibition of alcohol. Southern Baptist churches have had a ban on dancing. But dancing (like sex) is hard to ban since it is an enjoyable pastime.

Now people are trying to ban love and commitment.

At least, that's what marriage is supposed to be. However, love and commitment are rather popular these days, and when people want to ban them or even restrict them in any way, the public will still do what it wants in secret (like back-alley abortions, illegal commitments will still happen).
The funny thing about banning same-sex marriages is that they still have to be proven harmful to the public at large. People who espouse the "protection" of marriage have put forth lame "theories" about what legalization of gay marriage would do to families, but no concrete facts. So, the same argument that they (erroneously) use on evolution could be used here: "Same-sex marriage as a social detriment is ONLY A THEORY."

Of course, the mentality of Christofascists does not accept rationality. They're still working to repeal the ban on "cruel and unusual punishment."

Just a thought.