Thank God For Religious Intolerance!

Because If Christofascists Unite,
We'll ALL Be Forced To Sing
"Onward Christian Soldier"!!!

If all the sects of what constitutes the "Christian Right" ever truly unite, what will happen? God only knows! For the rest of the country, it might be better if they don't. They were (almost) united in their push on Prop 8. But they still bicker on the "fine points" of theology.

Let's hope they continue - amongst themselves.

Let's hope that Protestants still think Catholics have mysterious rituals and are controlled by the pope. Let's hope that Mormons still struggle for acceptance, even though some of their beliefs are not quite in tune with the rest of the Christian community. Let's hope that evangelicals still think that Joseph Smith was a lunatic and that mainstream Protestants can't quote chapter and verse ad infinitum.

Let's hope.

For well over 1500 years the Christian "Bible Bickersons" have proven that when it comes to dogma, no one wins and everyone suffers. I'm going to go out on a limb here with my own estimate: over those 1500 years (actually over 1850 years, but who's counting?), 140 million people have died because someone thought they weren't Christian or Christian ENOUGH. In the last 800 years, Europe has experienced 780 wars, most of them backed by "God" on both sides. It was Christianity that created Europe's first "justified" wars (The Crusades) as well as the first genocide (the Cathars of the Albigensian Heresy - about 100,000 lives lost there). It decimated whole cultures (e.g. Meso-Americans of the Aztec and Incan cultures) and as late as 1850, engendered the "Bible Wars" between Catholics and Protestants in the U.S. (And yes, some people died in those too).

Not to be "Christian-bashing", BUT... which sect has ever owned up to any of this bloodshed? Sure, the Southern Baptists finally "apologized" for slavery 150 years AFTER the Emancipation Proclamation, and a pope shed tears at The Wailing Wall in Jerusalem 1000 years too late, but can any of us afford to wait centuries before the Bible Bickersons say "we're sorry we caused this little altercation"?

Whether it's Iran or Israel, gays or The Family, Mormons or Catholics, Christian sects of all kinds seem to love a fight - and a war. Any war.

The following is an example of the way Mormons and evangelicals have been going at it lately. ChristiaNet.com is a kind of forum where "believers" can get quite heated in their responses. This one was from a thread about what Mormons believe, the question: "A friend of mine is converting to Mormonism? Do any of you Christians have any advice as to what I should say to him?" It brought out the very best in them.

From ChristiaNet:

Let's make this PERFECTLY clear - I have NEVER attacked the Bible, nor have I EVER called God a liar. My whole point was that God has ultimate control over what prophecies come true and that He and He alone will or will not make them happen. This is a perfect example of how you distort my words! Mormons revere the Bible, we believe it to be the word of God BUT we are not naive enough to believe that it has never been translated incorrectly through the hundreds of translations is has undergone. We haven't discussed any of the modern scriptures so your statement regarding what I haven't said truly disingenuous.

Yes, grammatical errors and all, this Mormon is PISSED. And someone's response:

The word attack can be defined as directing unfavorable criticism against. To say the Bible has translational problems, failed prophecies, etc., is unfavorable criticism, to say the least. I believe I have been fair in using the word attack to describe your comments.

Let's face it: these two couldn't be in the same room without killing each other.

But uniting them is a much scarier thought.

The Elephant In The Room: Christofascism Defined

The only role any government should play in religion is to protect every citizen’s right to practice any religion they damn well please. – Mark Twain

O.K., it's the "C" word for the one millionth time on this blog. And by now everyone knows how I feel about Christofascists; "there are two kinds: the Elmer Gantrys and the Elmer Fudds, both of whom are dangerous, but Fudd is more so because he's the one with the gun....blah, blah, blah!" But I've been thinking that you and I should take a look at the big "C" in more specific terms.

When you look at the prerequisites of fascism think of the highlighted words and how they've been presented to you by America's priests, preachers, radio hosts and self ascribed "people of faith". Think of them, then think past them and go to the Warrens and the Parsleys, the Haggees, the Osteens, the Jakes, the Dollars and the Copelands. Let's look at Fascism and the tenets that are ADDED by Christofascism.

Early Warning Signs of Fascism.

Powerful and Continuing NATIONALISM to be un-American is linked to being un-Christian

Disdain for HUMAN RIGHTS - Christofascists think that everything secular - like the ACLU - is automatically anti-Christian.

Identification of ENEMIES/SCAPEGOATS as a Unifying Cause - This is so obvious it almost needs no expounding upon. Today's Christofascists have as their enemies homosexuals, the ACLU, anyone pro-choice, scientists, evolution, and, of course, The United Nations.

Supremacy of the MILITARY - Think of both Rod Parsley and John Hagee. Both of them preach in militaristic terms: Parlsey wants us to "destroy Islam" and Hagee wants the Palestinians annihilated to spur on Armageddon

Rampant SEXISM We see it still in the manifestos of the Southern Baptist Convention and Scientology. We even saw it with Sarah Palin. She played up the "Femaleness" of her candidacy by repeating ad nauseum her role as a "hockey mom."

Controlled MASS MEDIA - FOX News is a prime example. Their motto "fair and balanced" is a joke to everyone. Rupert Murdoch's minions harken back to the Citizen Kane/William Randolph Hearst era of journalism that created its own news rather than just reporting it objectively.

Obsession with NATIONAL SECURITY - Former Vice President Dick Cheney continues to feed the fires of fear and insecurity with the blessing of Christofascists like Parsley and Hagee who wish to create wars for their own agendas.

The joining together of RELIGION & GOVERNMENT - As the Huckabees and the Warrens curry favor with heads of state while Mormon, Catholic, and Protestant money is being poured into campaigns, those who think that we have separation of church and state are living in a fantasy world.

CORPORATE POWER is protected - George Bush showed the world how to protect big business by deregulating as many industries as he could.

LABOR POWER is suppressed - Labor leaders have not had the political clout they once had because corporate power was protected and expanded within the last decade.

Disdain for INTELLECTUALS & THE ARTS - Pat Robertson has always claimed that Communism was based on the philosophies and rhetoric of Jewish Intellectuals. And since the arts are so infested by homosexuals...

Obsession with CRIME & PUNISHMENT - While they decry abortion as destroying life, most Christofascists will always vote for the death penalty.

Rampant CRONYISM & CORRUPTION - When George Bush said that he thought God wanted him to be President, he wasn't including his Skull and Bones mates, but gave them lucrative government posts anyway. The result was an administration not known for its expertise in any given field.

Fraudulent ELECTIONS The Presidential election of 2000 was contentious, but nonetheless was won with assistance from the judiciary and not the electorate. Christofascists maintained that this was obviously God's will.

Now Add to the Above:

TRADITIONALISM - One of the central themes of Christofascism is "gimme that 'ole time religion," relying on the poor memories of the flocks and they're unwillingness to learn about the history of their own religion.

Rejection of MODERNISM - Modernism means change. One of Christofascism's biggest enemies is change. Change brings about contrast with the past. And with contrast, comes questions.

Suppression of ANALYTICAL CRITICISM - Criticism must be suppressed at all times, because it can spark dissent of enormous proportions.

Disagreement is HERESY, APOSTASY or TREASON - In order to maintain authority, dissent must be portrayed as evil and contrary to the common good or spirituality.

Fear of CHANGE or DIFFERENCE – Christofascism peddles fear of the unknown: if you don’t know your neighbor, beware. If he’s different in any way, beware.

Appeal to a FRUSTRATED MIDDLE CLASS during ECONOMIC CRISIS Barack Obama struck a chord when he talked about bitter people clinging to their guns and religion. The truth hurt.

POLITICAL HUMILITAION as a tactic - Hitler used this tactic and quite well. Germany (or what was cobbled together after the Treaty of Versailles) was left with crushing debt and the demeaning of a small group of nations. Perhaps all of Eastern Europe's currency became worthless within a matter of months. Hitler turned around the self-loathing of an entire people and turned it into the polar opposite: national ego unleashed - and unlimited.

Use of SCRIPTURE as a WEAPON against dissenters and perceived enemies
(OK, this last one was my own). Mike Huckabee may be an example. I say "maybe" because the definitive evidence has been hidden, suppressed or just plain destroyed: there is a ten-year stretch of Huckabee's sermons (pre-governor of Arkansas) which cannot be found. Is it possible that these sermons were destroyed just before his campaign for the Presidency? These sermons may have proved too Reconstructionist for the general public.
Mike Huckabee:

I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that’s what we need to do - to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than try to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view.

HT: Scramblings.

Spoken like a TRUE Christofascist, Mike Huckabee. A true Christofascist.

Just a thought.

The New "Social Conservatives": Mormons On The Attack!

Just When Did The Church Of Latter Day Saints Become The Church of Fierce Culture Warriors?

Will America's religious communities actually stop their own intolerance for each other to unite? Maybe we should hope that they don't. Look what happened to Prop 8: Catholics and Protestants (and other "non-denominational Christians") united with the Mormon Church to annihilate gay marriage. Was it only for the money? Or was it because they saw in the Mormon Church a fierce warrior, a staunch soldier, an Achilles.

And they needed the strength to do a most "un-Christian" thing: deny people their rights.


From: The American Conservative
By Michael Brendan Dougherty

Mormons at the Door

Can social conservatives assimilate the LDS into their movement?

In 1898, B.H. Roberts, a high-ranking member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was elected to represent Utah in the House. At the time, Americans could grudgingly accept a Mormon politician as long as he wasn’t too Mormon. But Roberts still lived with the three wives he had married before the LDS church ended polygamy. Protestant ministerial associations and newspapers like the New York Evening Journal petitioned Congress to refuse Roberts his seat. The voices of rectitude delivered 7 million signatures written on 28 scrolls wrapped in the American flag to the Capitol. The House voted 268-50 against Roberts. His seat was given to a one-woman Mormon whose faith could be glossed over.

Several things stand out about this introduction. First note that, if correct, 7 million signatures for 1898 is an ENORMOUS, almost unfathomable sum. How they were able to get them on to just 28 scrolls is almost beyond comprehension (remember, they had no way of "copying" back then, so those 7 million signatures had to be all handwritten!). So, if the figure is correct it shows how vehemently people had issues not with just the Mormon faith, but any faith outside mainstream Protestantism. Some of the signatories may have remembered the "Bible Wars" of the 1850s where people actually lost their lives over which Bibles to use in schools! (Catholic Douay Version or KJV!). Yes, there were Christofascists back then. They thought Catholicism was weird and mysterious. If the figure is not correct, however, it still shows the animosity people have for "un-Christian" beliefs.

The other thing that stood out (for me) was in the subtitle: "social conservatives." What's with the "social conservatives" bullshit? Re-branding is too little too late. We've already discussed that. "Social Conservatives" ARE the Religious Right, the Christian Right, Fundamentalists, American Taliban, Reconstructionists, Literalists, or Christofascists - NOT "social conservatives" - the name is practically meaningless and brings up the quote from the very wise character Mammy in Gone With The Wind: "Ms Scarlett, you's nothin' but a mule in horse's harness. You kin dress him up and slick him down jus' like a race horse, but he's still a mule jus' the same." Or a "pig in lipstick."

The same process of assimilation into the social conservative movement may be taking place for Mormons. Soon after the California Supreme Court declared same-sex marriage constitutional, Catholic Bishop of San Francisco George Niederauer asked the LDS church to join a multifaith coalition against gay marriage.

Further in the article, a Mormon elder and LDS official, Lance, Wickman, called Prop 8: "The Gettysburg Of The Culture War."

Kind of catchy, isn't it? But more than great promotional value, it shows how vehemently (yes, and possibly violently) the Mormon Church will wage war against gay rights.

And against other things as well. Just ask Utah State Senator Chris Buttars. And while you're at it, ask when the "Saints" will become "Stalins" for the cause.

Of course, every Achilles has his "heel." We just need to know what it is.

We'll find out.

Just a thought.

GITMO FOR KIDS? Senator Buttar's Idea Of "Tough Love"

Even "Wayward" Kids Don't Deserve This!

The Commercials for West Ridge Academy in Logan, Utah have touching testimonies from parents who relate how their families were being torn apart by their kids who were "out of control" into drugs" "emotionally troubled." Go to You Tube here and here. The one where we hear a choir in the back of a slideshow is particularly heart-grabbing.

So, is it all just bullshit? When you sign on to YouTube, notice the video entitled "Trapped in a Mormon Gulag". It has only had about 1200 views. Now notice something else: the commercials have even less views. Why? Is it just some sort of salacious factor? Trapped in A Mormon Gulag was brought to the public's "attention" more than five weeks ago. Haven't heard of it? Why not?

Something is not right. Not right at all.

The testimonies of some of the "boys" were vastly different than those of the commercials' parents. One of the most telling discrepancies of this whole scandal of abuse is that the Mormon Church denies proselytizing on the grounds of the "Academy" (aka as The Utah Boys Ranch). This is ridiculous: if the only "chapel" is Mormon and there are three Mormon missionaries residing on site, would you call it secular? To ANY degree? According to the piece in Pam's House Blend:

It is a Mormon-funded and staffed facility, and religious indoctrination is a fundamental aspect of the school. There was sexual, physical, and emotional abuse, suicide, staff corruption, and escape. A major Utah political figure, Senator Chris Buttars, was the executive director

Senator Buttars. Check out yesterday's post (below). Now think of Jesse Helms running a Gitmo for wayward teens. Well, maybe not quite a Gitmo, since the kids were able to run away or were returned to their parents (with a somewhat changed "attitude"). Or if you're in a more compassionate mode, think of Fred Phelps running it. No matter which way you view it, West Ridge Academy is PUNISHMENT dealt out under the guise of "tough love." James Dobson might like it, but most of America won't like it if the truth comes out.

Just a thought.

Ann Coulter: Too White To Be Clean?

Hey, It's Time For Another Ann Coulter(geist) Bash
- About Something She ACTUALLY SUPPORTS!?!

It's very easy for pundit Ann Coulter to write her columns and books: just figure out who to bash and keep at it until someone calls you a liar and produces proof. It's all so formulaic: who's liberal and popular? Bash them - for ANYTHING! If you can't get Obama on some policy, mention Biden's hair plugs! Insult EVERYONE by going after their icons! Insult! Insult! Insult!

But being formulaic is boring. Yes, Ann Coulter(geist) is boring. What's interesting? Maybe the extreme few she favors, which come down to the number two: herself and something else. So what's the something else?

Posted in Extremist Propaganda by Mark Potok on February 13, 2009

In her latest foaming-mouth tome — Guilty: Liberal “Victims” and Their Assault on America, released on Jan. 6 — Coulter spends the better part of three pages defending a group called the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), which The New York Times had described as a “thinly veiled white supremacist organization.” Coulter begs to differ.

“There is no evidence on its Web page that the modern incarnation of the CCC* supports segregation,” she says. “Apart from some aggressive reporting on black-on-white crimes — the very crimes that are aggressively hidden by the establishment media — there is little on the CCC website suggesting” that the group is racist. Indeed, its main failing is “containing members who had belonged to a segregationist group thirty years earlier.”

Oh Ann! THREE PAGES of this? Come on! You know better than that! Their website is obvious and offensive.

Here in their own Statement of Beliefs:

-We believe the United States is a Christian country -We believe the United States is a European country and that Americans are part of the European people.
-We believe in the traditional family as the basic unit of human society and morality, and we oppose all efforts by the state and other powers to weaken the structure of the American family through toleration of sexual licentiousness, homosexuality and other perversions, mixture of the races, pornography in all forms, and subversion of the authority of parents.

So, by extension (in her support), Ann Coulter is: Christofascist, homophobic, misogynistic, racist and anti-immigration.

from wikipedia:

The Anti-Defamation League describes the Council of Conservative Citizens as a "white supremacist" organization. The CofCC is considered by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) to be part of the "neo-confederate movement." The NAACP, League of United Latin American Citizens, SPLC (which lists it as a "hate group") Anti-Defamation League, and even some conservative groups, such as Conservative Political Action Conference, consider the Council of Conservative Citizens a racist and homophobic organization, pointing to its purported advocacy of white supremacy. This view is partially based on the CofCC's statement of principles, which condemns racial integration, immigration by non-Europeans, homosexuality, and interracial marriage.

Hooray For The British! They Can't Tolerate The Intolerant!

Rule Britannia?
More Like Britannia's RULES!
(Thank God For Dead Causes!)

Phelps Barred From UK

By 365gay Newscenter Staff 02.19.2009 4:16pm EST

(London) The Rev. Fred Phelps and his daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, have been banned from entering the UK.UK Border Agency said Phelps and his daughter, reportedly the number two person in the church, will be stopped by immigration officials if the try to enter the country and immediately placed on a flight back to the US.

“The Home Secretary has excluded both Fred Phelps and his daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper from the UK,” a spokesperson for the Agency said Thursday.

“Both these individuals have engaged in unacceptable behavior by inciting hatred against a number of communities. The Government has made it clear it opposes extremism in all its forms.”

I still say we should leave Gitmo open for the Phelps Klan. Better yet: send them to the Mormon Gulag! Ooops, then again, maybe not. Fred Phelps shouldn't be anywhere near Chris Buttars; they might get to hatching anti-gay terrorist plots!

Hey! As an individual how has "engaged in unacceptable behavior by inciting hatred" that means these people can't go to England either:

Michelle Malkin, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbow-wow, Rod Parsley, John Hagee, Chris Buttars, Lou Sheldon, (all of) FOX News, and...

ANN COULTER(geist)!

Don't forget, Ann, we (I, this blog) were the FIRST to warn you not to take your palomino-like carcass to England (Princess Ann would try to ride you!) and now it's official!

You had best stay within the confines of your stable!

Just a thought.

Jesse Helms Is Back From The Dead - Alive And Kicking In Mormonland!

His New Name: Chris Buttars

From Think Progress:

Utah State Sen. Compares Gays To Alcoholics, Terrorists:
‘They’re The Greatest Threat To America

Today, the Utah state legislature “dealt a final blow” to the last of five gay rights bills taken up under the Common Ground Initiative, when it defeated a bill that would have granted gay couples rights of inheritance and medical decision-making. Yesterday, the state House rejected bills that would have allowed gay adoption and protected gays from housing and employment discrimination.

There were so very many sighs of relief when North Carolina Senator Jesse Helms died that you think the rest of the country would have taken a long pause to reconsider resurrecting him.

It didn't. Helms died on July 4th, 2008 (kind of sacrilegious when you come to think of it). It took less than 9 months for the state of Utah to resurrect him in the form of a state senator named Chris Buttars.

wikipedia:

Buttars has been the source of criticism and controversy regarding several issues including intelligent design, racism, and homosexuality and has received national media attention.

On the December 2, 2008 issue of MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann, Senator Buttars was named "The Worst Person in the World" for his announcement of an introduction of a Senate Resolution that would encourage the use of the words "Merry Christmas".

Last Tuesday, a local Utah radio station leaked portions of an interview with Buttars (for an upcoming documentary on Prop 8). He imitated Jesse Helms quite accurately:

– To me, homosexuality will always be a sexual perversion. And you say that around here now and everybody goes nuts! But I don’t care.

– They say, I’m born that way. There’s some truth to that, in that some people are born with an attraction to alcohol.

– They’re mean! They want to talk about being nice — they’re the meanest buggers I ever seen. It’s just like the Moslems. Moslems are good people and their religion is anti-war. But it’s been taken over by the radical side. And the gays are totally taken over by the radical side.

– I believe that you will destroy the foundation of American society, because I believe the cornerstone of it is a man and a woman, the family. … And I believe that they’re, internally, they’re probably the greatest threat to America going down I know of. Yep, the radical gay movement.

You can listen to his staunch bigotry here.

Will state senator Buttars be the one to tell President Obama that he had better watch his back if he comes to the state of Utah?

BTW: Will Buttars ever answer to the accusation that he ran the (now) infamous Mormon Gulag?

Just a thought.