The New "Social Conservatives": Mormons On The Attack!

Just When Did The Church Of Latter Day Saints Become The Church of Fierce Culture Warriors?

Will America's religious communities actually stop their own intolerance for each other to unite? Maybe we should hope that they don't. Look what happened to Prop 8: Catholics and Protestants (and other "non-denominational Christians") united with the Mormon Church to annihilate gay marriage. Was it only for the money? Or was it because they saw in the Mormon Church a fierce warrior, a staunch soldier, an Achilles.

And they needed the strength to do a most "un-Christian" thing: deny people their rights.


From: The American Conservative
By Michael Brendan Dougherty

Mormons at the Door

Can social conservatives assimilate the LDS into their movement?

In 1898, B.H. Roberts, a high-ranking member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was elected to represent Utah in the House. At the time, Americans could grudgingly accept a Mormon politician as long as he wasn’t too Mormon. But Roberts still lived with the three wives he had married before the LDS church ended polygamy. Protestant ministerial associations and newspapers like the New York Evening Journal petitioned Congress to refuse Roberts his seat. The voices of rectitude delivered 7 million signatures written on 28 scrolls wrapped in the American flag to the Capitol. The House voted 268-50 against Roberts. His seat was given to a one-woman Mormon whose faith could be glossed over.

Several things stand out about this introduction. First note that, if correct, 7 million signatures for 1898 is an ENORMOUS, almost unfathomable sum. How they were able to get them on to just 28 scrolls is almost beyond comprehension (remember, they had no way of "copying" back then, so those 7 million signatures had to be all handwritten!). So, if the figure is correct it shows how vehemently people had issues not with just the Mormon faith, but any faith outside mainstream Protestantism. Some of the signatories may have remembered the "Bible Wars" of the 1850s where people actually lost their lives over which Bibles to use in schools! (Catholic Douay Version or KJV!). Yes, there were Christofascists back then. They thought Catholicism was weird and mysterious. If the figure is not correct, however, it still shows the animosity people have for "un-Christian" beliefs.

The other thing that stood out (for me) was in the subtitle: "social conservatives." What's with the "social conservatives" bullshit? Re-branding is too little too late. We've already discussed that. "Social Conservatives" ARE the Religious Right, the Christian Right, Fundamentalists, American Taliban, Reconstructionists, Literalists, or Christofascists - NOT "social conservatives" - the name is practically meaningless and brings up the quote from the very wise character Mammy in Gone With The Wind: "Ms Scarlett, you's nothin' but a mule in horse's harness. You kin dress him up and slick him down jus' like a race horse, but he's still a mule jus' the same." Or a "pig in lipstick."

The same process of assimilation into the social conservative movement may be taking place for Mormons. Soon after the California Supreme Court declared same-sex marriage constitutional, Catholic Bishop of San Francisco George Niederauer asked the LDS church to join a multifaith coalition against gay marriage.

Further in the article, a Mormon elder and LDS official, Lance, Wickman, called Prop 8: "The Gettysburg Of The Culture War."

Kind of catchy, isn't it? But more than great promotional value, it shows how vehemently (yes, and possibly violently) the Mormon Church will wage war against gay rights.

And against other things as well. Just ask Utah State Senator Chris Buttars. And while you're at it, ask when the "Saints" will become "Stalins" for the cause.

Of course, every Achilles has his "heel." We just need to know what it is.

We'll find out.

Just a thought.

GITMO FOR KIDS? Senator Buttar's Idea Of "Tough Love"

Even "Wayward" Kids Don't Deserve This!

The Commercials for West Ridge Academy in Logan, Utah have touching testimonies from parents who relate how their families were being torn apart by their kids who were "out of control" into drugs" "emotionally troubled." Go to You Tube here and here. The one where we hear a choir in the back of a slideshow is particularly heart-grabbing.

So, is it all just bullshit? When you sign on to YouTube, notice the video entitled "Trapped in a Mormon Gulag". It has only had about 1200 views. Now notice something else: the commercials have even less views. Why? Is it just some sort of salacious factor? Trapped in A Mormon Gulag was brought to the public's "attention" more than five weeks ago. Haven't heard of it? Why not?

Something is not right. Not right at all.

The testimonies of some of the "boys" were vastly different than those of the commercials' parents. One of the most telling discrepancies of this whole scandal of abuse is that the Mormon Church denies proselytizing on the grounds of the "Academy" (aka as The Utah Boys Ranch). This is ridiculous: if the only "chapel" is Mormon and there are three Mormon missionaries residing on site, would you call it secular? To ANY degree? According to the piece in Pam's House Blend:

It is a Mormon-funded and staffed facility, and religious indoctrination is a fundamental aspect of the school. There was sexual, physical, and emotional abuse, suicide, staff corruption, and escape. A major Utah political figure, Senator Chris Buttars, was the executive director

Senator Buttars. Check out yesterday's post (below). Now think of Jesse Helms running a Gitmo for wayward teens. Well, maybe not quite a Gitmo, since the kids were able to run away or were returned to their parents (with a somewhat changed "attitude"). Or if you're in a more compassionate mode, think of Fred Phelps running it. No matter which way you view it, West Ridge Academy is PUNISHMENT dealt out under the guise of "tough love." James Dobson might like it, but most of America won't like it if the truth comes out.

Just a thought.

Ann Coulter: Too White To Be Clean?

Hey, It's Time For Another Ann Coulter(geist) Bash
- About Something She ACTUALLY SUPPORTS!?!

It's very easy for pundit Ann Coulter to write her columns and books: just figure out who to bash and keep at it until someone calls you a liar and produces proof. It's all so formulaic: who's liberal and popular? Bash them - for ANYTHING! If you can't get Obama on some policy, mention Biden's hair plugs! Insult EVERYONE by going after their icons! Insult! Insult! Insult!

But being formulaic is boring. Yes, Ann Coulter(geist) is boring. What's interesting? Maybe the extreme few she favors, which come down to the number two: herself and something else. So what's the something else?

Posted in Extremist Propaganda by Mark Potok on February 13, 2009

In her latest foaming-mouth tome — Guilty: Liberal “Victims” and Their Assault on America, released on Jan. 6 — Coulter spends the better part of three pages defending a group called the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), which The New York Times had described as a “thinly veiled white supremacist organization.” Coulter begs to differ.

“There is no evidence on its Web page that the modern incarnation of the CCC* supports segregation,” she says. “Apart from some aggressive reporting on black-on-white crimes — the very crimes that are aggressively hidden by the establishment media — there is little on the CCC website suggesting” that the group is racist. Indeed, its main failing is “containing members who had belonged to a segregationist group thirty years earlier.”

Oh Ann! THREE PAGES of this? Come on! You know better than that! Their website is obvious and offensive.

Here in their own Statement of Beliefs:

-We believe the United States is a Christian country -We believe the United States is a European country and that Americans are part of the European people.
-We believe in the traditional family as the basic unit of human society and morality, and we oppose all efforts by the state and other powers to weaken the structure of the American family through toleration of sexual licentiousness, homosexuality and other perversions, mixture of the races, pornography in all forms, and subversion of the authority of parents.

So, by extension (in her support), Ann Coulter is: Christofascist, homophobic, misogynistic, racist and anti-immigration.

from wikipedia:

The Anti-Defamation League describes the Council of Conservative Citizens as a "white supremacist" organization. The CofCC is considered by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) to be part of the "neo-confederate movement." The NAACP, League of United Latin American Citizens, SPLC (which lists it as a "hate group") Anti-Defamation League, and even some conservative groups, such as Conservative Political Action Conference, consider the Council of Conservative Citizens a racist and homophobic organization, pointing to its purported advocacy of white supremacy. This view is partially based on the CofCC's statement of principles, which condemns racial integration, immigration by non-Europeans, homosexuality, and interracial marriage.

Hooray For The British! They Can't Tolerate The Intolerant!

Rule Britannia?
More Like Britannia's RULES!
(Thank God For Dead Causes!)

Phelps Barred From UK

By 365gay Newscenter Staff 02.19.2009 4:16pm EST

(London) The Rev. Fred Phelps and his daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, have been banned from entering the UK.UK Border Agency said Phelps and his daughter, reportedly the number two person in the church, will be stopped by immigration officials if the try to enter the country and immediately placed on a flight back to the US.

“The Home Secretary has excluded both Fred Phelps and his daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper from the UK,” a spokesperson for the Agency said Thursday.

“Both these individuals have engaged in unacceptable behavior by inciting hatred against a number of communities. The Government has made it clear it opposes extremism in all its forms.”

I still say we should leave Gitmo open for the Phelps Klan. Better yet: send them to the Mormon Gulag! Ooops, then again, maybe not. Fred Phelps shouldn't be anywhere near Chris Buttars; they might get to hatching anti-gay terrorist plots!

Hey! As an individual how has "engaged in unacceptable behavior by inciting hatred" that means these people can't go to England either:

Michelle Malkin, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbow-wow, Rod Parsley, John Hagee, Chris Buttars, Lou Sheldon, (all of) FOX News, and...

ANN COULTER(geist)!

Don't forget, Ann, we (I, this blog) were the FIRST to warn you not to take your palomino-like carcass to England (Princess Ann would try to ride you!) and now it's official!

You had best stay within the confines of your stable!

Just a thought.

Jesse Helms Is Back From The Dead - Alive And Kicking In Mormonland!

His New Name: Chris Buttars

From Think Progress:

Utah State Sen. Compares Gays To Alcoholics, Terrorists:
‘They’re The Greatest Threat To America

Today, the Utah state legislature “dealt a final blow” to the last of five gay rights bills taken up under the Common Ground Initiative, when it defeated a bill that would have granted gay couples rights of inheritance and medical decision-making. Yesterday, the state House rejected bills that would have allowed gay adoption and protected gays from housing and employment discrimination.

There were so very many sighs of relief when North Carolina Senator Jesse Helms died that you think the rest of the country would have taken a long pause to reconsider resurrecting him.

It didn't. Helms died on July 4th, 2008 (kind of sacrilegious when you come to think of it). It took less than 9 months for the state of Utah to resurrect him in the form of a state senator named Chris Buttars.

wikipedia:

Buttars has been the source of criticism and controversy regarding several issues including intelligent design, racism, and homosexuality and has received national media attention.

On the December 2, 2008 issue of MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann, Senator Buttars was named "The Worst Person in the World" for his announcement of an introduction of a Senate Resolution that would encourage the use of the words "Merry Christmas".

Last Tuesday, a local Utah radio station leaked portions of an interview with Buttars (for an upcoming documentary on Prop 8). He imitated Jesse Helms quite accurately:

– To me, homosexuality will always be a sexual perversion. And you say that around here now and everybody goes nuts! But I don’t care.

– They say, I’m born that way. There’s some truth to that, in that some people are born with an attraction to alcohol.

– They’re mean! They want to talk about being nice — they’re the meanest buggers I ever seen. It’s just like the Moslems. Moslems are good people and their religion is anti-war. But it’s been taken over by the radical side. And the gays are totally taken over by the radical side.

– I believe that you will destroy the foundation of American society, because I believe the cornerstone of it is a man and a woman, the family. … And I believe that they’re, internally, they’re probably the greatest threat to America going down I know of. Yep, the radical gay movement.

You can listen to his staunch bigotry here.

Will state senator Buttars be the one to tell President Obama that he had better watch his back if he comes to the state of Utah?

BTW: Will Buttars ever answer to the accusation that he ran the (now) infamous Mormon Gulag?

Just a thought.

The ONLY Reason For Keeping Gitmo Open: Housing The Phelps Clan!

Oh Come On! Do You REALLY Want Those Idiots To Represent YOU In Any Way?

OMG! First Rush Limbaugh floats a bogus blast about a bust of Winston Churchill, then Brit-0file wannabe Eric Cantor (Rep., Va) thinks he can channel Churchill (thus offending the British even more), now the ultimate in humiliation: the Westboro Baptist Church has announced that they plan to picket a performance of The Laramie Project at Queen Mary's College in Basingstoke, Hampshire, England.

Details of the church's first picket in Britain was posted on their website with the slogan "God Hates England; Your Queen Is A W----".

Hurray for the Britons!

From the Weekly Telegraph:

Maria Miller, Conservative MP for Basingstoke, said that she had contacted the Home Secretary to see what action the Government may be considering in relation to possible attempts by the Phelps family to enter the country.

She condemned the church's "highly inflammatory language and behaviour" and said the young people who had worked on the play would not be intimidated by threats.

"The most important thing is that a production that is trying to promote tolerance goes ahead and that's what I'm focusing on achieving," she said.

Phelps and his clan probably hate Elizabeth II and her subjects simply because they have more class and dignity than his beknighted group could ever scrounge up.

Toss up: should the U.S. refrain from honoring the passports of the Phelps family and detain them for terrorist acts (one reason to hold Gitmo open for a while) OR should we let them go, then refuse to let them back in? (again, for being terrorists and THEN send them to Gitmo if Britain INSISTS on sending them back!).

Two of his many (13) children/minions/slaves/adoring followers broke away from Phelps and his sect. Mark and Nate stated that they suffered from severe abuse as children and that Phelps had a serious god complex

. From wikipedia:

The children's claim is partially backed up by B.H. McAllister, the Baptist minister who ordained Phelps. McAllister said in a 1993 interview that Phelps developed a delusion wherein he was one of the few people on Earth worthy of God's grace and that everyone else in the world was going to Hell, and that salvation or damnation could be directly obtained by either aligning with or opposing Phelps.

Phelps' appearance and protest could ruin decades of diplomacy with Great Britain (just as George Bush did with every other country).

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING POST - AN OPEN LETTER OF APOLOGY TO QUEEN ELIZABETH AND GREAT BRITAIN.

Letter of Warning And Apology To HRH Queen Elizabeth: Verbal Terrorist Fred Phelps Is Coming To Your Shores!

To Her Royal Majesty Elizabeth II,

Queen of Britain, Scotland and the Isles:

Re: The intent of “Reverend” Fred Phelps and his family to disrupt a performance at St. Mary’s College, Basingstoke, Hampshire.

Your Majesty:

Please accept our most humble apologies in advance for whatever these beknighted American Citizens may do in your country. They will be there by your grace and favor and are certain to abuse it. They are not representative of our country in any way. You are sure to treat them with the graciousness you have always shown Americans, but we will not hold you to hospitality. They may be treated with the utmost disdain which they deserve. They have acted in the most uncivil manner - lower than human dignity allows. They have shown their utmost contempt for the dignity of everyone with whom they come in contact.

If the local Hampshire constabulary should find them guilty of any misconduct, you are under no obligation to honor our extradition treaty since we have absolutely no desire to have them back. Should you not wish to house them in any establishment (we suggest Redding Goal, preferably the cell once occupied by Oscar Wilde), then please be advised that we will see that they are immediately dispatched to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and interrogated as terrorists.

Again, please accept our humblest apologies for allowing these creatures to travel to Great Britain.

In lieu of the entire United States, the territories of the Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico,

Ambassor-at-large,

Daniel F. Vojir, Esq

And all of the citizens of the United States
(who aren't in the Phelps clan)